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		<title>By: HopeFighter911</title>
		<link>http://elissestuart.wordpress.com/2008/09/22/gaslighting-a-narcissists-game/#comment-498</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been a victim of having been gaslighted by an ex-boyfriend. He would get people that were strangers to me and &quot;happen by&quot; me with in ear shot &amp; say key words to attack me psychologically. Using strangers was diabolically brilliant. You never knew the person or saw it coming until it happened. 

Fast forward 10 years later, my mother-n-law &amp; I had a squabble. Then SHE gaslighted my mental health reputation to EVERYONE around me. But, she NEVER took her accusations DIRECTLY TO MY FACE. She built her malicious attacks on HERESAY and PERPETUATED bits and pieces of truth with LIES! It left me alone. My husband didn&#039;t want to &quot;take sides&quot; even though he knew his mother was LYING. 

My sister &amp; mother heard first hand from the m-n-law her attacks about me. But, were too weak to stand up for me against her. And a year later... welcomed her back into their sight. 

And while others who &quot;heard&quot; the gossip first hand (the mother-n-law&#039;s family/friends) only 1 &quot;in-law&quot; came to me to discuss the facts. And that was my father-n-law who chalked up the mother-n-laws lies to &quot;misunderstandings.&quot; He covered her. 

The m-n-law even brought her malicious attacks against my mental health to the place I recieved counseling where the director of the women&#039;s center was HER BEST FRIEND.

 The best friend spoke about me &amp; my case with the m-n-law. This violates CONFIDENTIALITY. When I tried to apply legal recourse, the director who breached my client confidentiality just blew me off and had an underling reply to my voiced/written concerns regarding the breach of confidentiality to the m-n-law.

The best recourse anyone could have is to IGNORE IT &amp; cut TIES with the TOXIC GASLIGHTING BEHAVIOR! It&#039;s not that easy when it&#039;s family. But PRAY to GOD! Pray PRAY PRAY!  

Don&#039;t feed the narcissist&#039;s gaslighting behavior. I swear, I think the actually &quot;get off&quot; on violating you.  It&#039;s like a mental &quot;I know I gotcha, and I love it!&quot; It&#039;s icky/filthy/truely diabolical behavior.&quot; 

And of course... the best recourse against anyone in life is &quot;To live well!&quot; A man once told me, &quot;the calm one ALWAYS WINS!&quot; When faced with such abhorrent behavior ALWAYS REMAIN CALM &amp; just walk away. Fighting with a sociopathic liar is a pointless realm of wasted energy. Arm yourself with Prayer and distance.

The mother-n-law &amp; all her blind Lemming head friends (blind loyalists) and family members were told I was &quot;crazy&quot;, &quot;insane&quot; and &quot;in need of medication.&quot; Her proof was the fact that I had OCD. OCD, yes is true. But, that was the hardship for me &amp; the embarrassment. I had to live down the fact that I had OCD in the face of the m-n-law&#039;s exploitation of it to suit her own lies.

Fast foward 4 years later, I became a licensed Paramedic. 

I prayed and prayed over this gaslighting situation. I had to ignore it and hold my head high. But, being in the same room with the victimizer was like being placed in the pit of a bully who was ready to disembowel my every move. And of course, I was under a microscope in front of the in-law family. Which was added to my anxiety, hurt and nervousness about it all. 

In the end, God is control no matter how you feel or how well the victimizer believes they are doing. In the end, we must all stand before God for what has been done to the innocence of victims that had to with stand having been gaslighted directly &amp; indirectly.  

The best recourse I held close to my heart for having suffered at the hands of this Gaslighting mother-n-law of mine is that #1) What she did to me, she did to Jesus. He is my savior and master. &amp; #2) We all die sometime and will stand TRIAL before God and MUST ANSWER for what she did to me. If recompense happens in the next life... then I am guaranteed a handsome reward for dealing with her diabolical victimizing.

Half the battle against gaslighting is knowing the dynamic of what this behavior is called and named. Once you are familiar that this kind of behavior is recognized, you can call it what it is. Rather than trying to explain the ambiguity of it all to someone.... That in of it&#039;s self... can make the victim truly sound &quot;crazy.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been a victim of having been gaslighted by an ex-boyfriend. He would get people that were strangers to me and &#8220;happen by&#8221; me with in ear shot &amp; say key words to attack me psychologically. Using strangers was diabolically brilliant. You never knew the person or saw it coming until it happened. </p>
<p>Fast forward 10 years later, my mother-n-law &amp; I had a squabble. Then SHE gaslighted my mental health reputation to EVERYONE around me. But, she NEVER took her accusations DIRECTLY TO MY FACE. She built her malicious attacks on HERESAY and PERPETUATED bits and pieces of truth with LIES! It left me alone. My husband didn&#8217;t want to &#8220;take sides&#8221; even though he knew his mother was LYING. </p>
<p>My sister &amp; mother heard first hand from the m-n-law her attacks about me. But, were too weak to stand up for me against her. And a year later&#8230; welcomed her back into their sight. </p>
<p>And while others who &#8220;heard&#8221; the gossip first hand (the mother-n-law&#8217;s family/friends) only 1 &#8220;in-law&#8221; came to me to discuss the facts. And that was my father-n-law who chalked up the mother-n-laws lies to &#8220;misunderstandings.&#8221; He covered her. </p>
<p>The m-n-law even brought her malicious attacks against my mental health to the place I recieved counseling where the director of the women&#8217;s center was HER BEST FRIEND.</p>
<p> The best friend spoke about me &amp; my case with the m-n-law. This violates CONFIDENTIALITY. When I tried to apply legal recourse, the director who breached my client confidentiality just blew me off and had an underling reply to my voiced/written concerns regarding the breach of confidentiality to the m-n-law.</p>
<p>The best recourse anyone could have is to IGNORE IT &amp; cut TIES with the TOXIC GASLIGHTING BEHAVIOR! It&#8217;s not that easy when it&#8217;s family. But PRAY to GOD! Pray PRAY PRAY!  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t feed the narcissist&#8217;s gaslighting behavior. I swear, I think the actually &#8220;get off&#8221; on violating you.  It&#8217;s like a mental &#8220;I know I gotcha, and I love it!&#8221; It&#8217;s icky/filthy/truely diabolical behavior.&#8221; </p>
<p>And of course&#8230; the best recourse against anyone in life is &#8220;To live well!&#8221; A man once told me, &#8220;the calm one ALWAYS WINS!&#8221; When faced with such abhorrent behavior ALWAYS REMAIN CALM &amp; just walk away. Fighting with a sociopathic liar is a pointless realm of wasted energy. Arm yourself with Prayer and distance.</p>
<p>The mother-n-law &amp; all her blind Lemming head friends (blind loyalists) and family members were told I was &#8220;crazy&#8221;, &#8220;insane&#8221; and &#8220;in need of medication.&#8221; Her proof was the fact that I had OCD. OCD, yes is true. But, that was the hardship for me &amp; the embarrassment. I had to live down the fact that I had OCD in the face of the m-n-law&#8217;s exploitation of it to suit her own lies.</p>
<p>Fast foward 4 years later, I became a licensed Paramedic. </p>
<p>I prayed and prayed over this gaslighting situation. I had to ignore it and hold my head high. But, being in the same room with the victimizer was like being placed in the pit of a bully who was ready to disembowel my every move. And of course, I was under a microscope in front of the in-law family. Which was added to my anxiety, hurt and nervousness about it all. </p>
<p>In the end, God is control no matter how you feel or how well the victimizer believes they are doing. In the end, we must all stand before God for what has been done to the innocence of victims that had to with stand having been gaslighted directly &amp; indirectly.  </p>
<p>The best recourse I held close to my heart for having suffered at the hands of this Gaslighting mother-n-law of mine is that #1) What she did to me, she did to Jesus. He is my savior and master. &amp; #2) We all die sometime and will stand TRIAL before God and MUST ANSWER for what she did to me. If recompense happens in the next life&#8230; then I am guaranteed a handsome reward for dealing with her diabolical victimizing.</p>
<p>Half the battle against gaslighting is knowing the dynamic of what this behavior is called and named. Once you are familiar that this kind of behavior is recognized, you can call it what it is. Rather than trying to explain the ambiguity of it all to someone&#8230;. That in of it&#8217;s self&#8230; can make the victim truly sound &#8220;crazy.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Louna Cee</title>
		<link>http://elissestuart.wordpress.com/2008/09/22/gaslighting-a-narcissists-game/#comment-386</link>
		<dc:creator>Louna Cee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T,

[&quot;He made sure to never be home and we never had enough $$ to pay for babysitters. He made it impossible for me to work.]-- 

That is was my current situation, a week ago. There is a way to work.. i can assure you! 
It took me some time to do it but you have to ask for help. You don&#039;t have to say much but you have to show desire to work. 
I will write a post that will explain how i found work and someone(s) to care for my child while job hunting/interviewing...

Be strong to all of you! Louna</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T,</p>
<p>["He made sure to never be home and we never had enough $$ to pay for babysitters. He made it impossible for me to work.]&#8211; </p>
<p>That is was my current situation, a week ago. There is a way to work.. i can assure you!<br />
It took me some time to do it but you have to ask for help. You don&#8217;t have to say much but you have to show desire to work.<br />
I will write a post that will explain how i found work and someone(s) to care for my child while job hunting/interviewing&#8230;</p>
<p>Be strong to all of you! Louna</p>
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		<title>By: T.</title>
		<link>http://elissestuart.wordpress.com/2008/09/22/gaslighting-a-narcissists-game/#comment-382</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 03:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you ever heard of a mother gaslighting a child?
Would a husband telling a woman&#039;s children &quot;not to listen to Mommy, Mommy does not know..bla bla&quot; fill in the blank; be considered gaslighting.
An immature, insecure, little, little, man has been doing this to me for years.  The children have no respect for me.
He made sure to never be home and we never had enough $$ to pay for babysitters.  He made it impossible for me to work. 
Worse yet, my mother is an extreme narcisisst.  She is overtly cruel to my children.  I could not run home.
Trapped.  
One of our children needs 24 hour nursing care, might not live, many surgeries, extremely ill.   We are trying to get Medicaid for him and a nurse.  Caring for this child is extremely hard work, emotionally exhausting, draining.
I will never &quot;get out&quot;.
I know I gave him the birth certificate to get medicaid and he says I lost it.  I am the one who must be crazy.   It is never him.
He agrees with doctors sometimes when they are dead wrong about our son.  I don&#039;t know what to do but stick it out until I can work and get proper care for our child.

&lt;em&gt;ttrazz:  Putting down the other parent to the children is a common device of the N from what research I have done.  I hope you will be able to remove yourself and children from his influence and control.   
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever heard of a mother gaslighting a child?<br />
Would a husband telling a woman&#8217;s children &#8220;not to listen to Mommy, Mommy does not know..bla bla&#8221; fill in the blank; be considered gaslighting.<br />
An immature, insecure, little, little, man has been doing this to me for years.  The children have no respect for me.<br />
He made sure to never be home and we never had enough $$ to pay for babysitters.  He made it impossible for me to work.<br />
Worse yet, my mother is an extreme narcisisst.  She is overtly cruel to my children.  I could not run home.<br />
Trapped.<br />
One of our children needs 24 hour nursing care, might not live, many surgeries, extremely ill.   We are trying to get Medicaid for him and a nurse.  Caring for this child is extremely hard work, emotionally exhausting, draining.<br />
I will never &#8220;get out&#8221;.<br />
I know I gave him the birth certificate to get medicaid and he says I lost it.  I am the one who must be crazy.   It is never him.<br />
He agrees with doctors sometimes when they are dead wrong about our son.  I don&#8217;t know what to do but stick it out until I can work and get proper care for our child.</p>
<p><em>ttrazz:  Putting down the other parent to the children is a common device of the N from what research I have done.  I hope you will be able to remove yourself and children from his influence and control.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Louna Cee</title>
		<link>http://elissestuart.wordpress.com/2008/09/22/gaslighting-a-narcissists-game/#comment-379</link>
		<dc:creator>Louna Cee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much for your blog and your posts. I have added you to my Blogroll. hope you don&#039;t mind!

It took me over 10 years to realize I am married to a N. Tough but with all the reading I am doing, I&#039;m looking forward to a better future... in a safe place! 

Louna Cee

&lt;em&gt;Louna-  
     I am pleased to join your Blogroll, and I am glad to know tha my posts and blog has helped you cope with being connected to an N.  My sincerest wishes for a bright and safe future away from the craziness they bring to our lives.  
ES</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for your blog and your posts. I have added you to my Blogroll. hope you don&#8217;t mind!</p>
<p>It took me over 10 years to realize I am married to a N. Tough but with all the reading I am doing, I&#8217;m looking forward to a better future&#8230; in a safe place! </p>
<p>Louna Cee</p>
<p><em>Louna-<br />
     I am pleased to join your Blogroll, and I am glad to know tha my posts and blog has helped you cope with being connected to an N.  My sincerest wishes for a bright and safe future away from the craziness they bring to our lives.<br />
ES</em></p>
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		<title>By: Teresa</title>
		<link>http://elissestuart.wordpress.com/2008/09/22/gaslighting-a-narcissists-game/#comment-224</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 00:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too have suffered at the hands of a gaslighting N with BPD.  Married only 3 years (2nd marriage for both of us); divorced two years and have spent the past two years in counseling trying to forgive; get my balance back and release the anger for not only his gaslighting narcissistic behavior but his pathological lying that roped me into marrying him.  How stupid I was!
Teresa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too have suffered at the hands of a gaslighting N with BPD.  Married only 3 years (2nd marriage for both of us); divorced two years and have spent the past two years in counseling trying to forgive; get my balance back and release the anger for not only his gaslighting narcissistic behavior but his pathological lying that roped me into marrying him.  How stupid I was!<br />
Teresa</p>
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		<title>By: Edie</title>
		<link>http://elissestuart.wordpress.com/2008/09/22/gaslighting-a-narcissists-game/#comment-129</link>
		<dc:creator>Edie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been the victim of gaslighting for over 8 years and could never figure it out, as soon as I thought I had it figured out, he would switch up the game.  The techniques were never consistent and I was always left in such an extreme state of confusion and made out to be totally crazy for even considering it.  

The hardest part has been that when trying to decipher the abuse, I tried to reach out and was inflicted with secondary trauma from people who are unaware, and or use the methods themselves.

I don&#039;t know if I will ever recover, as the more I look at it, the more I see that many men in my life gaslight me to have control.  Half the time, they do not even know they are doing it.  But as I have learned, I need to trust that sick feeling in my gut.  It tells me something isn&#039;t right, even when the world seems to be gaslit crazy.

Trust in our own perceptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been the victim of gaslighting for over 8 years and could never figure it out, as soon as I thought I had it figured out, he would switch up the game.  The techniques were never consistent and I was always left in such an extreme state of confusion and made out to be totally crazy for even considering it.  </p>
<p>The hardest part has been that when trying to decipher the abuse, I tried to reach out and was inflicted with secondary trauma from people who are unaware, and or use the methods themselves.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if I will ever recover, as the more I look at it, the more I see that many men in my life gaslight me to have control.  Half the time, they do not even know they are doing it.  But as I have learned, I need to trust that sick feeling in my gut.  It tells me something isn&#8217;t right, even when the world seems to be gaslit crazy.</p>
<p>Trust in our own perceptions.</p>
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		<title>By: Liv</title>
		<link>http://elissestuart.wordpress.com/2008/09/22/gaslighting-a-narcissists-game/#comment-109</link>
		<dc:creator>Liv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that gaslighting is the N trying to make their victim feel as uncomfortable, sad, confused, and frazzled as they themselves feel.

It all goes to the fact that they are totally self-loathing. True love, empathy, and emotion is completely unknown to them. 

The main problem is that real feelings cannot be &quot;understood&quot; by analyzing- and that&#039;s all they have to work with- it&#039;s all a theory to them. That being the case, they act out and are compelled (compulsive) to do so.

They truly are out of control...stuck as a selfish, petulant and unrepentant six year old forever,

Liv</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that gaslighting is the N trying to make their victim feel as uncomfortable, sad, confused, and frazzled as they themselves feel.</p>
<p>It all goes to the fact that they are totally self-loathing. True love, empathy, and emotion is completely unknown to them. </p>
<p>The main problem is that real feelings cannot be &#8220;understood&#8221; by analyzing- and that&#8217;s all they have to work with- it&#8217;s all a theory to them. That being the case, they act out and are compelled (compulsive) to do so.</p>
<p>They truly are out of control&#8230;stuck as a selfish, petulant and unrepentant six year old forever,</p>
<p>Liv</p>
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		<title>By: madmargaret</title>
		<link>http://elissestuart.wordpress.com/2008/09/22/gaslighting-a-narcissists-game/#comment-73</link>
		<dc:creator>madmargaret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 15:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally know where you&#039;re coming from on this. Great post. I&#039;ve been gaslighted for so long, not even knowing it was happening. Bad relationships will definitely do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally know where you&#8217;re coming from on this. Great post. I&#8217;ve been gaslighted for so long, not even knowing it was happening. Bad relationships will definitely do that.</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine Sherman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine Sherman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 11:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Gaslighting&quot; happened to a close relative of mine from her ex-husband who would sneak into her house and move things around.  She thought she was going crazy, which is what he wanted her to think, until a neighbor told her that she had seen the ex-husband climbing into her window while she was at work.  He would take things like the cord to the electric skillet and put it in a bathroom drawer.  It wasn&#039;t until I read your post that I ever thought of that man as a narcissist, but just as a huge jerk.  If he was an N, it explains a lot of his truly cruel behavior.  It all fits now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Gaslighting&#8221; happened to a close relative of mine from her ex-husband who would sneak into her house and move things around.  She thought she was going crazy, which is what he wanted her to think, until a neighbor told her that she had seen the ex-husband climbing into her window while she was at work.  He would take things like the cord to the electric skillet and put it in a bathroom drawer.  It wasn&#8217;t until I read your post that I ever thought of that man as a narcissist, but just as a huge jerk.  If he was an N, it explains a lot of his truly cruel behavior.  It all fits now.</p>
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		<title>By: Bev from england</title>
		<link>http://elissestuart.wordpress.com/2008/09/22/gaslighting-a-narcissists-game/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>Bev from england</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont think my N friend &#039;gasslit&#039; me much , tho he did lie often... but hed always back up inapropriate remarks with a comment along the line that it was just a joke.... yeah right, very funny...

Like you, I too excused his bad behaviour and was totally supportive.... until he finally abandoned me..

Its so sad to read how many of us have been affected by Ns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont think my N friend &#8216;gasslit&#8217; me much , tho he did lie often&#8230; but hed always back up inapropriate remarks with a comment along the line that it was just a joke&#8230;. yeah right, very funny&#8230;</p>
<p>Like you, I too excused his bad behaviour and was totally supportive&#8230;. until he finally abandoned me..</p>
<p>Its so sad to read how many of us have been affected by Ns.</p>
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