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	<description>Surviving a relationship with a Narcissist.....&#38; other seemingly related things</description>
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		<title>Comment on Narcissistic Curtain Calls by Tysa</title>
		<link>http://elissestuart.wordpress.com/2009/01/15/narcissistic-curtain-calls/#comment-497</link>
		<dc:creator>Tysa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 15:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was little and I heard my mom mention narcissistic personality disorder, I used to think of flowers. My father once give me a vase of narcissi and irises for my birthday. Then I grew older and my mom stopped answering dad’s letters, so not getting what he needed from her, my father turned on me.

 I kept having this recurring dream where I am up in front of a court, trying to convince them that my dad is beating me. I am covered in bruises, blue and purple and yellow green, old and new all across my back. I take off my shirt revealing all of these marks, but no one can see them. I cry and plead with them, but they just look at me in this distant, slightly pitying way and see nothing. The only other person who can see is my dad, and he just sits there in front of everyone with this charming smile on his face, and I know that the moment I am alone with him he will add more bruises, fresh and red on top of the sickly purple, because I dared to ask for help.

On my sixteenth birthday I called my father and told him that I would not be coming home. I lived in a friend’s guest room for a week, and then moved in with my mom. My friend said I was like a mouse, keeping my head down, barely speaking unless spoken to, jumping each time the phone rang. 

It’s been over three years. I’m slowly regaining contact with my father’s side of the family. They want to pay for me to go to college, which I am going to have to drop out of for financial reasons. Only now, mom says I’ve stopped laughing as much. I haven’t worn makeup in months. Worst of all, I’m not sleeping. I think I’m afraid to. I wake up with tears dried and crusted in my lashes. I think the dream is back.

Now when I think of narcissus I think of bruises.

&lt;em&gt;Tysa:  
I don&#039;t know what to say, your situation is tragic. I hope you are able to find someone who can counsel you and give you some professional advice.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was little and I heard my mom mention narcissistic personality disorder, I used to think of flowers. My father once give me a vase of narcissi and irises for my birthday. Then I grew older and my mom stopped answering dad’s letters, so not getting what he needed from her, my father turned on me.</p>
<p> I kept having this recurring dream where I am up in front of a court, trying to convince them that my dad is beating me. I am covered in bruises, blue and purple and yellow green, old and new all across my back. I take off my shirt revealing all of these marks, but no one can see them. I cry and plead with them, but they just look at me in this distant, slightly pitying way and see nothing. The only other person who can see is my dad, and he just sits there in front of everyone with this charming smile on his face, and I know that the moment I am alone with him he will add more bruises, fresh and red on top of the sickly purple, because I dared to ask for help.</p>
<p>On my sixteenth birthday I called my father and told him that I would not be coming home. I lived in a friend’s guest room for a week, and then moved in with my mom. My friend said I was like a mouse, keeping my head down, barely speaking unless spoken to, jumping each time the phone rang. </p>
<p>It’s been over three years. I’m slowly regaining contact with my father’s side of the family. They want to pay for me to go to college, which I am going to have to drop out of for financial reasons. Only now, mom says I’ve stopped laughing as much. I haven’t worn makeup in months. Worst of all, I’m not sleeping. I think I’m afraid to. I wake up with tears dried and crusted in my lashes. I think the dream is back.</p>
<p>Now when I think of narcissus I think of bruises.</p>
<p><em>Tysa:<br />
I don&#8217;t know what to say, your situation is tragic. I hope you are able to find someone who can counsel you and give you some professional advice.</em></p>
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		<title>Comment on FAQ:  Do Narcissists know what they are? by Cyndi</title>
		<link>http://elissestuart.wordpress.com/2009/11/04/faq-do-narcissists-know-what-they-are/#comment-496</link>
		<dc:creator>Cyndi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 12:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that they are incapable of introspection but I do believe that they know what they are.  I agree that they don&#039;t have any actual human emotions or realize or care about how they affect others.  We are weak in their eyes simply for having emotions.

I do believe that they know exactly how un-fabulous they really are and every single word and action is a conscious attempt at convincing everyone else, and themselves, otherwise.  They run from introspection so that they don&#039;t have to face these demons.  When they are not receiving enough supply,we get narcissistic rage, right?  Yet another attempt to avoid the truth of what they are.  One big fireball of distraction for them, destruction for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that they are incapable of introspection but I do believe that they know what they are.  I agree that they don&#8217;t have any actual human emotions or realize or care about how they affect others.  We are weak in their eyes simply for having emotions.</p>
<p>I do believe that they know exactly how un-fabulous they really are and every single word and action is a conscious attempt at convincing everyone else, and themselves, otherwise.  They run from introspection so that they don&#8217;t have to face these demons.  When they are not receiving enough supply,we get narcissistic rage, right?  Yet another attempt to avoid the truth of what they are.  One big fireball of distraction for them, destruction for us.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pumpkin Cake by Catherine Sherman</title>
		<link>http://elissestuart.wordpress.com/2009/11/25/pumpkin-cake/#comment-493</link>
		<dc:creator>Catherine Sherman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one of my mother&#039;s favorite recipes to make!  Yummy! Thanks for sharing this.  Have a wonderful Thanksgiving!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of my mother&#8217;s favorite recipes to make!  Yummy! Thanks for sharing this.  Have a wonderful Thanksgiving!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pecan Bars by alwaysjan</title>
		<link>http://elissestuart.wordpress.com/2009/11/24/pecan-bars/#comment-492</link>
		<dc:creator>alwaysjan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 04:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, I&#039;ve got to compare this to MY Pecan Pie Bar recipe.  It&#039;s one of my favorites.  It seems lighter than pie, but I&#039;m probably just fooling myself.
&lt;em&gt;I like to tell myself that calories ingested in the presence of family members...those you are fond of...and even the ones &quot;not so much&quot; should not count.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I&#8217;ve got to compare this to MY Pecan Pie Bar recipe.  It&#8217;s one of my favorites.  It seems lighter than pie, but I&#8217;m probably just fooling myself.<br />
<em>I like to tell myself that calories ingested in the presence of family members&#8230;those you are fond of&#8230;and even the ones &#8220;not so much&#8221; should not count.</em></p>
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		<title>Comment on FAQ:  Do Narcissists know what they are? by CZBZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>CZBZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Narcissists blame others and that&#039;s why they&#039;re so dangerous to people who are willing to accept blame and fault so they can make amends. When you&#039;ve got one of those tender hearts that really wants to make relationships work, you don&#039;t realize what hit you until you&#039;re feeling like an overloaded garbage can. 

The narcissist throws everything away, casting blame and fault in the nearest container (that would be &#039;you&#039;, ha!). That&#039;s because narcissists don&#039;t know how to clean up their own toxic waste, so they dump it on others. 

I like to think about the remorse process as an emotional recycling center for toxic behavior...ha! Even as competent as our recycling centers might be, we can&#039;t clean up messes for TWO. 

Hugs,
CZBZ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Narcissists blame others and that&#8217;s why they&#8217;re so dangerous to people who are willing to accept blame and fault so they can make amends. When you&#8217;ve got one of those tender hearts that really wants to make relationships work, you don&#8217;t realize what hit you until you&#8217;re feeling like an overloaded garbage can. </p>
<p>The narcissist throws everything away, casting blame and fault in the nearest container (that would be &#8216;you&#8217;, ha!). That&#8217;s because narcissists don&#8217;t know how to clean up their own toxic waste, so they dump it on others. </p>
<p>I like to think about the remorse process as an emotional recycling center for toxic behavior&#8230;ha! Even as competent as our recycling centers might be, we can&#8217;t clean up messes for TWO. </p>
<p>Hugs,<br />
CZBZ</p>
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		<title>Comment on Narcissistic Personality Disorder by browneyes</title>
		<link>http://elissestuart.wordpress.com/narcissistic-personality-disorder/#comment-489</link>
		<dc:creator>browneyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just found your blog today. Been doing lots and lots of reading since finally giving up on my N two weeks ago. Most of what I&#039;ve read so far made me question myself - is he really an N? He seems so normal, so plain and un-evil. But I read some of your blog on &#039;pretend guy&#039; and it hurt. It hurt b/c it sounded so familiar. For 3 years I held on and hoped he&#039;d change - but I realized 2 weeks ago that I had been hoping he&#039;d change his mind about ME. I have always thought something was wrong with me - not him. He convinced me that I was too emotional, too sensitive, too loving, too caring, too high-strung .. he kept his cool for the most part. I&#039;d say esp in front of others, but we were never really around others much ... anyway, I&#039;m going on too much. I&#039;ll keep on reading.I&#039;d like to run away ... browneyes

&lt;em&gt;Sadly, that plain un-evil type can be so N.  Glad you found my blog...there are lots of posts here on Narcissists. &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just found your blog today. Been doing lots and lots of reading since finally giving up on my N two weeks ago. Most of what I&#8217;ve read so far made me question myself &#8211; is he really an N? He seems so normal, so plain and un-evil. But I read some of your blog on &#8216;pretend guy&#8217; and it hurt. It hurt b/c it sounded so familiar. For 3 years I held on and hoped he&#8217;d change &#8211; but I realized 2 weeks ago that I had been hoping he&#8217;d change his mind about ME. I have always thought something was wrong with me &#8211; not him. He convinced me that I was too emotional, too sensitive, too loving, too caring, too high-strung .. he kept his cool for the most part. I&#8217;d say esp in front of others, but we were never really around others much &#8230; anyway, I&#8217;m going on too much. I&#8217;ll keep on reading.I&#8217;d like to run away &#8230; browneyes</p>
<p><em>Sadly, that plain un-evil type can be so N.  Glad you found my blog&#8230;there are lots of posts here on Narcissists. </em></p>
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		<title>Comment on FAQ:  Do Narcissists know what they are? by Hey_I_Know_You!</title>
		<link>http://elissestuart.wordpress.com/2009/11/04/faq-do-narcissists-know-what-they-are/#comment-488</link>
		<dc:creator>Hey_I_Know_You!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quote from the &quot;N&quot; -  11/16/2009

&quot;I have long given up on the human race babe.  Have absolutely nothing in common with most people here n hope I get abducted by aliens one day...  I am serious.&quot;

Alien much?

&lt;em&gt;Guess he misses his Alma Mater.....I maintain they all (N&#039;s) went to the same school in outer space.  </description>
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<p>&#8220;I have long given up on the human race babe.  Have absolutely nothing in common with most people here n hope I get abducted by aliens one day&#8230;  I am serious.&#8221;</p>
<p>Alien much?</p>
<p><em>Guess he misses his Alma Mater&#8230;..I maintain they all (N&#8217;s) went to the same school in outer space.</em></p>
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		<title>Comment on Fall Is Not Easy by Susan Swan</title>
		<link>http://elissestuart.wordpress.com/2008/11/01/fall-is-not-easy/#comment-487</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Swan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elisse, Thanks so much for the mention! These books with Linda Glaser were so much fun to do. Another more recent fall book is WHEN AUTUMN FALLS written by Kelli Nidey (Albert Whitman), ages 3-6, and illustrated by me in the same style. I hope you like it too.
I love making the papers used in these books and also use them for various craft projects. I have a blog where I discuss my books, crafts projects, or whatever.... http://paperswans.blogspot.com.
Thanks again,
Susan

&lt;em&gt;Susan - Thank you so much.  You are very welcome!  
You are the first book illustrator that I have heard from on my blog.  Right now I have your book, and others decorating a fall display.  
Even though my youngest is &quot;too old&quot; for picture books, I still check out book stores for new books.  I will look for the one you mentioned, and add you to my blog roll if you don&#039;t mind.  
Thanks again for stopping by!  : )
Elisse</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elisse, Thanks so much for the mention! These books with Linda Glaser were so much fun to do. Another more recent fall book is WHEN AUTUMN FALLS written by Kelli Nidey (Albert Whitman), ages 3-6, and illustrated by me in the same style. I hope you like it too.<br />
I love making the papers used in these books and also use them for various craft projects. I have a blog where I discuss my books, crafts projects, or whatever&#8230;. <a href="http://paperswans.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://paperswans.blogspot.com</a>.<br />
Thanks again,<br />
Susan</p>
<p><em>Susan &#8211; Thank you so much.  You are very welcome!<br />
You are the first book illustrator that I have heard from on my blog.  Right now I have your book, and others decorating a fall display.<br />
Even though my youngest is &#8220;too old&#8221; for picture books, I still check out book stores for new books.  I will look for the one you mentioned, and add you to my blog roll if you don&#8217;t mind.<br />
Thanks again for stopping by!  : )<br />
Elisse</em></p>
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		<title>Comment on FAQ:  Do Narcissists know what they are? by Catherine Sherman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine Sherman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By definition, I think Narcissists have no understanding of their extreme self-absorption and shallowness.  You&#039;re so right that if you wonder whether you are a Narcissist, then you need not worry that you are.  It doesn&#039;t absolve a person of bad behavior, but at least it can be fixed.  To solve a problem you need to acknowledge that it exists, and to a Narcissist everyone else is at fault.  Thanks for posting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By definition, I think Narcissists have no understanding of their extreme self-absorption and shallowness.  You&#8217;re so right that if you wonder whether you are a Narcissist, then you need not worry that you are.  It doesn&#8217;t absolve a person of bad behavior, but at least it can be fixed.  To solve a problem you need to acknowledge that it exists, and to a Narcissist everyone else is at fault.  Thanks for posting.</p>
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		<title>Comment on FAQ:  Do Narcissists know what they are? by alwaysjan</title>
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		<dc:creator>alwaysjan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The depth of their deception (to themselves AND those close to them) is unfathomable.  Despite all of the devastation they wreak on the lives of others, it never occurs to them that they had something to do with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The depth of their deception (to themselves AND those close to them) is unfathomable.  Despite all of the devastation they wreak on the lives of others, it never occurs to them that they had something to do with it.</p>
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